Gareth's Ancestors Origination and History

Your subtype is R1b-Z2961

Your Z2961 subtype was recently discovered in the 1000 Genomes Project, so its distribution is not yet understood. It belongs to the larger S193 cluster which accounts for about 1% of Scots and is the closest genetic group to the Ancient Irish group - it remains to be seen whether your ancestors originated in Ireland or whether in fact the Ancient Irish group originated longer ago in Britain. You may carry markers that further define your subtype, but do not yet appear on our tree. You will find these in your genetic signature.

Munster, Ireland Location indicated by  ( A ) Icon  "See Map Below". The R1b S-145 Largest Percentage Location in United Kingdom

Munster (Irish: an Mhumhain / Cúige Mumhan, pronounced [ənˈvuːnʲ], [ˌkuːɟəˈmuːn]) is one of the Provinces of Ireland situated in the south of Ireland. In Ancient Ireland, it was one of the fifths ruled by a "king of over-kings" Irish: rí ruirech. Following the Norman invasion of Ireland, the ancient kingdoms were shired into a number of counties for administrative and judicial purposes. In later centuries, local government legislation has seen further sub-division of the historic counties.

Munster has no official function for local government purposes. For the purposes of the ISO, the province is listed as one of the provincial sub-divisions of the State (ISO 3166-2:IE) and coded as "IE-M". Apart from County Clare, the remainder of the province forms the South constituency for elections to the European Parliament. Geographically, Munster covers a total area of 24,675 km2(9,527 sq mi) and has a population of 1,246,088 with the most populated city being Cork. Other significant urban centres in the province include Limerick and Waterford.


Subtype R1b-Z2961

Our R1b1b2a1a2 is a subgroup of R1b1b2

Pretani L21/M529



(EthnoAncestry 2009)

The male North line belongs to the Pretani subgroup, a marker for the first people to cross to the British Isles and Ireland. This group must have arisen early in the settlement of the Isles, indeed the ancient Irish and Pictish subgroups are sister groups.

This group has a high incidence in Ireland today around 85% and less in England and Scotland (around 50%) . However the subgroup does not exactly match the Norse, Viking, Caledonian, Anglo Saxon, Pictish, Irish, Northmen , Scandinavian or Germanic subgroups thus we are perhaps more likely to be amongst the early celts spreading to the West Country, Wales, Ireland and perhaps to Scotland.

When direcly asked about this Dr Gianpiero Cavalleri of EthnoAncestry states: “The Pretani group is observed across the British Isles and Ireland. We currently do not have the resolution to be able to divide it up and lock subtypes down to a particular area. Given that the type is seen across the British Isles and Ireland we cannot determine from where within this area your male ancestor came from - could well be Ireland or Scotland, we just can't determine which with your particular type.

Jeremy Iles- North comments: “My conclusion is that we may have Scottish Ancestry but it may devolve from the Celts who settled in Scotland either through war or settlement and there is almost certainly ancient British and Irish stock there too since the original M343 group, who formed the first to cross to England and to whom we are directly linked, must have crossed the channel in the south as the ice age retreated North.

It does not disprove Charles Niven McIntyre North`s claim but neither does it prove it”

EthnoAncestry is pleased to announce the release of two exciting new Y
chromosome SNP markers, S168 and S169, each of which defines a new
subgroup of your group R1b-S145 (“Pretani”).

S168 defines a subgroup which originated in Ireland over 1000 years ago
and is particularly common in the southwest of the country, for example
in Counties Clare, Tipperary, Limerick and Cork. It has been seen in
Scotland and England, but much more rarely. It has been suggested that
this type marks descent from the DalCassian clans, the descendants of
Cormac Cas. Most prominent amongst these are the O’Briens, the
descendants of Brian Boru, the famous High King of Ireland.

S169 defines a different subgroup which is also over 1000 years old and
appears to originate in Ireland, but this time concentrated in Leinster
in the east of the country, particularly the neighbouring counties of
Wicklow, Kildare and Wexford. It is also found in Scotland and England
at lower frequencies, mostly around the Irish Sea. In some cases it may
indicate descent from the chieftains of the Lagin in Ireland.


DNA compare Pollard - Wilson - Acree SNPs


Updated: 05/07/2014

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